1992-0209 Shri Ganesha Puja Talk, Perth, Australia, DP-RAW

It is so joy giving to be back in Australia.

When I wanted to come here in this month,Stephen told me that Perth would be scorchingly hot (Laughter) and I don’t think you shouldgo to Perth first, you can go later.

So I said that part you leave it to me, therest is all right.

Now you have seen how it rained and rainedand rained because you wanted rain, that was needed very much and also you wanted a cooleratmosphere, both things have worked out, but then the worry was because of the rain theseekers won’t come, also that was solved because it was a testing ground.

I told them if they’re real seekers they’llcome otherwise what’s the use of having a big quantity with no seeking and see yesterdaywhat beautiful people came.

They came all the way in the rain becausethey were seekers and very deep seekers.

They never even asked a question, can youimagine in this Australia I am always bombarded with questions and they had told me not toallow them to ask questions but I could feel their seeking so much that I said better askme questions and not a single question was asked.

So in one shot how many things are done.

You got the rain that you needed very muchfor your trees, for your crops, for your fruits, for everything, it was most unexpected andthen you got it cooled down so that our programmes could go on well.

Then you got the real seekers and the realseeking, but the electricity went off, now see the good point of electricity also.

Because electricity went off we had thosecandles and all the bhoots I saw were just, were burnt with this candles on, and I camein the room (Mother laughs), they all went pop, pop, pop, like that and I could see whycandles had to be put.

So also that was a good thing that we shouldrely sometimes on natural things.

You are so much dependant on electricity,is not a very good thing, so you should have always provision for something natural, weshould keep some lanterns and things and should try to live more with the nature than withthis electricity.

I tell you this electricity is responsiblefor spoiling our eyes very much.

Supposing we had used those lights which oldergeneration had used, we would never have strained so much our eyes as we are with this electricitybecause not that it gives us light but also it takes away light from our eyes.

So too much use of electricity is made uslike slaves to it.

As you know that in America once the electricityfailed and so many people died.

So it’s more to depend on natural things,and this is a good trend that you have that you try to have more natural surroundings,more natural places to live in.

So the main thing we have to realise, thatequilibrium that is being worked out by Parama Chaitanya.

If Parama Chaitanya is the power of love ofGod then it works out equilibrium.

So the Sahaja Yogis who are going to workout Parama Chiatanya have to have equilibrium in their life.

This is a place where I say resides Mahaganesha.

So we have to understand how Shri Ganesh bringsbalance in us.

It’s very important to see that his swastikarepresents nothing else but balance.

Balance when it is steady, when it startsmoving in the right direction, then constructive work starts and also it works out all thatis important for life.

But when it starts the other way round itworks out the destructive part.

These both are in balance, if they are notlife cannot go on.

The constructive and destructive both haveto be in balance.

See in nature, if you see in the nature forexample, a flower has to come, and when the flower dies then the fruit comes out.

The tree has to evaporate its water to thesky if it does not then it won’t rain, it won’t trigger the rain.

But during winter season it has to drop outits leaves because these leaves have to die and fall on to the ground to nourish the mothernature with nitrogen.

Then during summer time again they come back.

So the life goes on like this, that whateveris created is destroyed, something new comes up, again that new thing also comes up ina way that it becomes constructive and then what ever it has constructed, part of it isdestroys.

So actually if you see in the death residesthe life.

If there is no death, imagine if all the peoplewho were born since long would have been living today, we would not have been here.

It would have been so difficult to manageourselves with all these people.

But so many animals have died and those animalsalso have become human beings.

So many human beings have to die to get otherpeople to come on this earth and that you have to take some rest and come back again.

So the death is just a change of life.

Without death life cannot exist, it’s abalance between the two.

So a Sahaja Yogi should never be afraid ofdeath, he should never be afraid of death because if he is going to die it is only goingto be another life where he rests for a while and comes back with greater enthusiasm, withgreater energy.

So there is a complete balance in nature,if you see if there was no balance we could not have existed.

Supposing the earth was moving with a greaterspeed, you would not have existed, the pacific ocean was deeper even by certain feet, youwould not have existed.

So many things are completely in balance,the distance with the sun, the distance with the moon, everything is so much in balance,if this balance breaks then we would be nowhere.

So we have to understand that all this isdone by Shri Ganesha.

He is the one who looks after all the materialthings and all the things that are created.

For example, the first chakra is created bythis Mother Earth and the, all this universe then is created by the second chakra.

But the first chakra is the one which emitsthe holiness, the auspiciousness which gives balance.

Auspiciousness comes only through balance.

So I find people when they have lost theirbalances, they go to the right or to the left.

People are very righteous, extremely righteous,very good Sahaja Yogis, nice, but there is no love.

Without love righteousness has no meaning.

Love doesn’t mean that you indulge intoanything, but you must have detached love and responsibility.

So in our life we should see if we have thatbalance or not.

It’s very important if we have to see toShri Ganesh.

Shri Ganesh as you know is on Mooladhara,he controls all our senses as far as the Mooladhara is concerned, especially all the excretion.

So we are not people who believe in the indulgenceof it, neither we believe in the detachment of it but in the balance.

That’s why you all have to be married, youhave to have a proper physical life and that you should have proper children and lead avery sensible, dignified married life.

That is very important.

But Love should be there, there should belove between husband and wife, between children and parents and everyone.

If one person goes into imbalance the wholefamily goes into imbalance.

To establish a family sweetly and nicely isalso an art and if both of them agree and say that we’ll do this way I’m sure it’snot difficult because you are Sahaja Yogis you already know the quality of balancing.

What I find in the west now is the balancehas gone really on the rocks because, see now there are all kinds of problems of homosexualityand this and that and all that, this is just because of imbalances, people have gone tothat limit.

Another is asceticism where are your peopleare ascetic, made ascetic like in TM and all that, they have taken to these things becausethese are unnatural things, natural is to be in balance.

If you are not in balance then things go offand you become either too much of something and nothing of the other, that’s how peoplesuffer.

So from Ganesha’s, Ganesha’s chakra wehave to learn what are we doing.

So sometimes we have to, say, accumulate things,we have to consume things and then we have to throw them away also.

It is not that what ever we consume is juststored up within us or in the house, so we must also learn how to throw away things andhow to take inside, this is in our household, in our thought also.

In our thought also, when we receive somethoughts from anywhere we should only digest that is good for us and is digested becauseof Parama Chiatanya, the rest should be thrown away, you shouldn’t bother.

Like yesterday somebody met me, she said MotherI am a catholic and I cannot get out of Catholicism, she is supposed to be, she wants to do SahajaYoga, then I said you stay inside Catholicism because there is no question of balance.

But in Sahaja Yoga what ever good of Catholicism,means that you have to worship Christ, that part is all right.

The rest, whatever is nonsensical has to bethrown away.

So the whole atmosphere that you face of thoughts,of ideas, of books, whatever you read, you must develop a capacity to consume that isgood for you and whatever is bad you should throw away.

I must say in Austria people are really doingthat very well.

Somebody is now doing research on Koran.

He is taking out all the essences of Koranwhich are in balance.

Koran talks of balance, talks of that youmust have balance, equilibrium, it talks of it and so he has taken that point and nowhe is taking out all that creates imbalances in the, in the Islamic book called Koran whichpeople have used for imbalances.

On one point you can show how they have gone,deviated from their path.

Deviated means they have gone into imbalances.

For example Christianity now, you can takeit very clearly that they didn’t use Ganesha’s principle there at all but all throughoutis written that you have to look after yourself in a moral way, that in the old testamentis written that (Mother speaks aside).

Now in the old testament it is written ‘Thoushalt not commit adultery’ but Christ has made it even subtler, very subtle becausehe’s at Agnya controlling the eyes, so he said ‘Thou shalt not have adulterous eyes’.

But the Christians have crossed all the limitsof adultery, all the limits, I mean I don’t know to what limit they are going to go now,I mean it’s really they have gone amuck, the way they are going into this kind of aexperimentation.

And then what will happen to your children? What will happen to your society? That’s what is happening now in, in completeimbalance.

Completely in imbalance all these societieswhere they are using adultery as a style of life.

What Christ has said, just the opposite theyare doing.

Same as Shri Krishna has said that in everybodyresides the spirit.

Then everybody is just the same.

How can you have caste system? You can have at the most caste system according to the work you are doingbut you can’t have caste system according to the birth.

You cannot have.

I mean it’s so plain, clean, you can seeit so clearly, he has said it that everybody has got the spirit so everybody can ascend.

Christ has said the same thing, he has notsaid that women don’t have the spirit or men have the spirit and look at the way thatthese people are talking that they cannot have ordination, of course ordination itselfis humbug, (Laughter) but still I would say (unclear) but to deprive someone of certainrights because they are women or men is something absolutely, I should say nonsense.

It has no relevance to Dharma because Dharmameans balance, Dharma means balance, the one who has balance is the man who is Dharmic,who is in the centre.

If you are in the centre, say you take, saya balance, this called as balancing but in Hindi it’s called as Talasu, now you holdit in the hand, it’s called as balance can you imagine, hold it in the centre, centreof gravity of that balance is in the centre.

Now if you go more on this side this willgo down or you go on this side it will go down but if you are at the gravity point youcannot move this side or that side.

Can you imagine the gravity is coming fromMother Earth, and Mother Earth has made Shri Ganesha.

So this gravity point within us is to be maintainedand this gravity comes very natural to human beings, it’s not to be adopted or anything.

If childhood, if children are told about theirgravity, about their dignity, about their greatness they will immediately develop itwith a great pride that we are something special and that we have to have this gravity withinus.

Now this gravity gives you what you call,is a kind of an attraction.

Anybody who is grave, doesn’t mean thatyou pull a big face, that never means that, but gravity means that you are not, you arenot disturbed easily by any turmoil or anything.

Gravity means so many things as you can seefrom Shri Ganesha’s character, that gravity means you are the one who is standing in thecentre.

A person who sees everything, doesn’t getdisturbed, doesn’t get tempted, is self contented, doesn’t ask for anything, doesn’tneed anything, doesn’t take revenge, forgives because he has no way to get out of his gravity,he is just bound there.

Now somebody takes a revenge and runs away,all right go away, if somebody tries to trouble him, all right go away because he can’trun out of that gravity point.

That another person has lost his balance buthe can’t run after that person who is in imbalance.

So he doesn’t run after that person whohas done wrong, he is all right, he has done wrong, have pity on him let him do that.

He doesn’t run after that person, he isstanding there and he is standing there itself is sufficient to frighten others and to destroyothers because he is standing at a point where he cannot be destroyed but the others arerunning towards destruction so what’s the use of running after him, getting yourselfalso destroyed.

Such a person who has achieved that balancesees others as something to be pitied because he sees they are on the verge of falling down.

I am here nicely settled down but they areon the verge of falling down.

They may try to tell him, they may try tohelp him, they may try to do everything for that person because they can see that personis going to fall down but if that person doesn’t want to take to balance you cannot force it.

So the Ganesha’s greatest quality is thathe has gravity.

With that gravity he sits down on this MotherEarth.

Now because this is a country of Ganesha theAustralians must have balance, should naturally have but they don’t, I must tell you theydon’t.

My experience of Australians before I startedSahaja Yoga has been terrific, I must tell you that (Mother Laughs), that if an Australianstarts drinking only person who can compete with him is a Russian (Laughter).

And then they talk so irrelevantly you don’tknow how to deal with them.

If they shake your hand then you will feelafter some time you have lost it.

Everything they do in such a big way thatI couldn’t understand why is it they shake your hand so badly, so C.


said you see they have lots of jungles, hetried to console me (Laughter) and there are lots of, you see, animals and things and that’swhy you see they shake hands like that.

I said, no animal shakes hands you see (laughter),how have they learned from the animals, I can’t get this explanation all right, onthe contrary they’re extremely gentle.

Animals are extremely gentle with each other.

So how this kind of shaking hands has startedand only people who can beat them are Greeks who shake hands in a very funny way that reallyyou get a big jerk.

So I felt that the country of Ganesha whichshould be absolutely in balance and in one tune with this Parama Chiatanya.

You see the animals who live in the jungles,you have so much of nature, see these trees they grow up to a point, they do not aggressothers, they do not fight, they do not have groups, nothing of the kind.

Just they grow accept what ever is given tothem live with it happily and if they have to be destroyed they accept the destruction.

But they are absolutely in contact with Godor under the complete control of God almighty.

That’s why animals are called as Pashu,means Pash, means under the control of God while we have got freedom.

Even we have got freedom, still this is thecountry of Shri Ganesha.

The nature should really imbibe within you,is the balance and the balance should come in such a manner that your whole character,your own temperament should show that balance within you.

But what I find is the most difficult thingin Australia that there are group, groups and people fight and lots of problems withthem.

It surprises me how can, in the country ofGanesha where there are Ganas, you see all Ganas are here.

If Ganas start fighting with each other whatwill happen? Supposing the anti-bodies in our body startfighting with each other then what will happen to our body? So you are like Ganas, you are specially blessedpeople to be born in this special country and after all these achievements that youhave made if you are going to take this absolutely nonsensical things of the countries whichare over developed, have lost their balance, then what’s the use of being born in thisGanesha’s land.

In this Ganesha’s land you have to havea complete balance within yourself, that’s what I expect from the Sahaja Yogis of Australiathat they have to give to the whole world the sense of balance of Shri Ganesha.

On the contrary it has been reported to methat every time we have our programme in Ganapatipule people have noticed that there are groupsin Australia, that people are not clean hearted, they talk ill of others and they told me,warned me, Mother be on the look out why it is happening.

They speak something behind their backs andtry to convince the people of other countries about it, of course they being so clean thatthey don’t like it.

They don’t want to hear it from Sahaja Yogis,they don’t want to hear against anyone who are Sahaja Yogis.

So they informed me Mother this is a veryserious thing and certain things they have told me are really very serious.

So now we have to first decide that we shouldbear no grudge to anyone.

How can you bear grudge to anyone, we haveto be forgiving.

All the time forgiving, something, somebodyhas said it, all right doesn’t matter.

As it is, English language you know is notvery soft language, it’s not a very soft language and in that if you say somethingone should not mind.

It’s a very humorous language but the humoursometimes cuts you out, but doesn’t matter, that’s the defect of the language.

But that doesn’t mean that you should sayharsh words to anyone or you should be indifferent to anyone.

Do your duties to your children, to your wife,to your husband.

Indifference to anyone itself is tremendousharshness.

For the small thing if a woman gets angryand doesn’t talk to her husband or if the husband neglects the wife, doesn’t botherabout her, looking after her, caring for her, then it’s a, it’s a crime, according toSahaja Yoga it’s a wrong thing to do because you must have balance you must have softnessof nature.

You should talk very softly to others andbe kind and nice.

Just find out if you are doing that or not.

Then between the group where it’s a questionof using the power of love.

We have no other power, we have no money power,we have no this political power, economic power, nothing.

What power we have got is the power of love.

For that, when you talk to each other onehas to talk in a soft manner, extremely soft and kind manner.

He’ll be surprised, I must say, in my experienceI have found Germans like that, extremely soft to each other, extremely gentle, I meanI can’t believe these Germans who killed the whole world once upon a time, now in SahajaYoga suddenly they have realised what a horrible thing we have done and Sahaja Yogis I tellyou they’re extremely gentle.

You scratch anyone and you’ll be surprisedthat the, all of them, all the Sahaja Yogis are extremely, extremely gentle.

While the Italians I used to think would bevery gentle because they have art, culture, everything and they produce such nice thingsbut on the contrary I find that Germans can beat them.

Beautiful German Sahaja Yogis there are, theyhate neo-fascism, they (unclear) they said we have had enough of it, we had such a badname all over the world, if they know we are Germans nobody wants to look at us, and whatare these people doing.

So they have become extremely gentle fromone end to another end, and this gentleness really brings them out because everybody isso surprised that Germans could be that gentle, so sweet.

Now look at Shri Ganesha how gentle he is,how sweet he is and how innocent he is.

His ways are so gentle, how he works on you,how he makes things for you, how gently he does all these things.

Like see now you cannot see this flower opening,in my room you put some flowers they started growing, you can’t see the growth, if youput a very, camera of a special nature which can record, you can see it growing there butyou can’t see, you can’t see a tree growing, you can’t see a flower opening out, youjust can’t see anything that is growing by nature, by Shri Ganesh.

He does it so gently.

Now also he will not go, go trees one on topof another but in such a way that they all get the suns rays.

Just like a great Mother I must say the waygently he does everything.

Every leaf is made differently what a, whatan art, every leaf, in the whole world you cannot find exactly the same leaf whetherit is from Australia or from America, the leaf if you see it under microscope will differ,every leaf, can you imagine.

Look at his work, how gently he puts everything.

How gently he works and while we are livingon the grounds of Shri Ganesha how gentle we should be and in dealing with people weshould be extremely, extremely gentle to show that we are Ganesha’s special Ganas.

That’s what I feel about Australians.

We have had some mishaps I know, doesn’tmatter but that’s all right, few of them were like that but all of you should reallylearn to be very loving, gentle, kind and concerned.

Small, small things can make people happy,very happy you see.

Then I try all these tricks myself and youshould also try these tricks, is very simple.

That one day I gave a sari to a lady, so shesaid … Mother how do you know I love this colour … because I’ve seen you mostlywearing this colour, so I know you love this colour … but did you see me … yes I sawyou.

So these small things you see, she was soheartened, she felt that Mother notices me, because I’ve seen you, I mean I see allof you but I know about all of you because I am concerned and bothered about you, foreveryone I know where you stand, what’s wrong with you, what should be done, whatyou like, what you don’t like.

There’s no harm in doing that, it’s muchbetter to have a better rapport when you understand what’s the problem is.

I immediately know what’s the problem.

I know a person who is dominating, I knowa person who is mistrusting, everything I know and gradually I try to tell them in avery gentle way that this should be corrected.

But you need not tell them, for you there’sa very simple method of giving bandhans and improving people, you don’t have to worryabout doing something very drastic about it or to tell them on the face.

Only thing if you give bandhan to them youcan do it.

Now about this, how to develop this balance,is the big problem and I was thinking that I will talk about this later on to peoplein details, how to develop the balance in our character, in our nature, of course meditationdoes help you to be in the centre but still sometimes we just slip off and there is away by which you can really make your character in such a way that you remain in balance allthe time.

On the contrary when there will be a crisisyou’ll just jump on to your gravity point, that should happen.

If that happens no problem, it happens withme, if I see any crisis anywhere, Sahaja Yoga in my family life or anywhere, immediatelyI know that I am deep down on to my gravity and from there I can see everything so clearlyand then I solve the problem.

That is what one has to understand, that youhave to jump on your gravity and then it’s not a relative position, to be on the gravityis not a relative position, that it is not that you have to compare yourself with others,no you don’t have to.

You don’t have to think that I’ll be losingthis or I’ll be gaining this, nothing of the kind.

You are there on your own position, you arethere, you are in charge of yourself.

So you don’t worry, there is no jealousy,there’s no fear, there’s no kind of a temptation, you just, you’re there, you’renot bothered.

Sometimes I’ve seen the leaders are worriedabout their leadership sometime.

Now leadership is just hocus-pocus I musttell you.

If somebody says Mother you become the leaderI say no (Mother laughs), I know, I know that joke.

So it’s a joke, leadership is a joke yousee and if you know it’s a joke then only you’ll work it out better.

Because you see it is this, there’s nothinglike hierarchy in Sahaja Yoga, as you know we are all one, same.

We cannot say that hands are better than feetand the feet is better than this, nothing of the kind.

In the same way everything is very importantand everything circulates like the blood cells, so we do not say that this blood cell is goodand that blood cell is bad or this blood cell is higher, that blood cell is higher, in thesame way everybody is circulating, so one should not have any fear.

Also fear of the leader should not be there,there’s no need to fear the leader.

If you are on your gravity you keep to it.

He will understand you, as long as leaderis on the gravity he’ll be there, as soon as you go away, goes away from the gravityhe’ll go away himself.

So you stand on your own gravity point andnobody can disturb you, you should have no fear, nothing, nothing to bother in SahajaYoga.

As it is you are all saints, what is thereto bother, the whole Ganas, all the angels, all this all pervading power is looking afteryou.

Yesterday we saw a kind of a light which we,miraculous light following us on both the sides of the car, especially on my side wasthere such a lot of light following.

Just giving indication that it’s all right,this is Ganesha’s place and here things are going to work out.

So you are placed so well, you have so manypowers within yourself and which you can express very well, fearlessly you can have it withinyourself.

Anybody who tries to trouble you will be lookedafter by this all pervading power, you don’t have to do anything about it.

So try to see are you in balance in any way,some people are too much attached to their family and some people are detached.

Too much attachment to family is also wrong.

What is the need to be attached so much, youspoil your children, when they grow up they hit you back.

So best is to keep them in balance, have adetached attitude towards life.

And this detached attitude as I told you islike the sap in the tree which goes to all the places.

If it is surplus it can evaporate or it cango down but it doesn’t stick to anything because if it sticks to anything, that involvementwill kill that tree and also kill that part, that flower where it is sticking on to.

So we see that attached love is the deathof the love.

So we have to have proper understanding ofthis detached love where you stand on your gravity and you have concern about everyone,think about everyone.

In case you find that somebody is not allright, you don’t lose your balance but get that person in the balance.

If you start losing your balance then howcan you get back that person.

And in that way you will lose all your hatred,all your anger, all your lust or what you can call, all your competition, all that becauseyou stand in your own dignity, you don’t want certificate from anyone, you don’twant any praising from anyone, you just know that you are there and you are self contented.

Then it’s not also necessary that Mothermust give me a special audience, it’s all ego.

I must see Mother, I have to see her privately,what is the need to see me privately.

I am never private I am available every timeto you, all the time.

So all these things you see are coming outof the ignorance and out of the fact that not, you are not on your gravity point.

So today to begin with, we have this GaneshPuja where we all should in our heart think what is our gravity point and that we haveto stand very firm.

May God bless you.

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